MASONRY STRONG Podcast, Episode 14 Recap: Foreman Instructors

Words: Jameel Ervin, Tom Vacala, Donnie Williams

On this episode of the MASONRY STRONG Podcast, Foreman Instructors Donnie Williams, Jameel Ervin, and Tom Vacala join Justin in talking about the changes in masonry education over the years, how they all became good friends, and some of their favorite stories from the classroom!

The Foreman Course: An Evolving Journey

For those stepping into the realm of foreman courses for the first time, understanding what awaits can be daunting. Yet, the trainers have taught these courses 14 times in 12 different states, experiencing everything from the glittering lights of Vegas to the sunlit horizons of Florida and Texas.

A Unique Teaching Approach

Each class begins with the trainers "reading the room," ensuring their teaching resonates with every individual's unique background and experience. This interactive approach starts by asking participants about their journey into masonry. Some might be greenhorns learning the ropes, while others boast decades of field experience—sometimes even both in the same classroom!

The atmosphere is always dynamic and interactive. The classrooms are melting pots of wisdom and fresh perspectives—perfect for fostering both inspiration and learning.

The Essence of Team Chemistry

Donnie, Jameel, and Tom share a bond that's palpable both inside and outside the classroom. Their camaraderie not only fuels the magic of their sessions but sets an example for their students to follow.

Engaging Minds with Interactive Learning

Keeping students engaged for long sessions requires creativity. Enter the "fake brick" toss and other interactive games designed to reignite interest just when things start to lull.

The classes are structured into 45-minute segments, often broken up with breakout activities and hands-on learning sessions. This unconventional approach—combining theory with practical, joyful learning—helps students absorb lessons more effectively.

Science Behind the Fun

Donnie, Jameel, and Tom aim to replicate teaching methods that would have resonated with them as young learners who craved movement and hands-on interaction over long lectures.

Interactive Games: Fake brick tosses to liven up the class.

Active Participation: Students form groups, solve problems, and present solutions.

Energetic Environment: Movement in class keeps energy high for absorbing knowledge.

The Importance of Foremen in Masonry

Training foremen isn't just about teaching them to lead; it’s about preparing them to be the face of their company. These are the individuals who liaise with architects and general contractors and earn the trust of the crew working under them.

Why Foremen?

In the podcast, it's emphasized how significant the foreman role is—a sentiment echoed repeatedly in their training sessions. A foreman isn’t just a team leader; they are the key to a successful job site and thus, a successful company.

The lessons drawn from real-life experiences mean every guideline they impart is rooted in practicality, enriching the learning experience.

Building Relationships

The trainers understand that relationships built both inside and outside the teaching environment enhance teaching quality. Hunting trips and early arrivals to destinations help strengthen their bond, translating into a more cohesive teaching unit.

The Great Outdoors and Camaraderie

Through humorous anecdotes—like an epic trip that included unexpected encounters with nature—they embody the close-knit relationships that can be formed.

Defining Masonry Strong

In closing, Masonry Strong signifies more than just physical strength; it epitomizes grit, passion, and a legacy of excellence handed down through generations.

Passion and Legacy

The trainers draw from their rich past, relying on the lessons learned through familial connections and extensive hands-on experience in the field. This continuity of knowledge helps push the industry toward a brighter future.

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Tune in to listen to the MASONRY STRONG Podcast every Thursday on Spotify, Apple Podcasts and YouTube.


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